Friday, May 8, 2009

Gatto exposed mandatory education

If you've never heard of John Taylor Gatto, prepare to be shocked.

Gatto is the author of numerous books, including the stunning "Underground History of American Education," and a former public school teacher. His book exposes the primary purpose of American public education, which is not to educate or to create people who know how to think, but instead to create obedient citizens who can work at mindless jobs and follow orders.

In case you'd rather listen than read, here's a YouTube clip of a 30-minute radio interview Gatto did:



Did you know, for example, that since the beginning of mandatory public education in the 1840s, the literacy rate in this country has never been as high as it was before then?

Did you know that President Woodrow Wilson said that only 3 percent of people were worthy of being trained to do independent thinking?

Read Gatto.

Where this all came from was Prussia. In the Napoleonic wars, the Prussians were defeated because many of their soldiers were too independent and not quick enough to follow orders. So the system was changed to create good soldiers, capable of following orders without thinking.

Most of you probably went to public schools. Remember the emphasis? It wasn't on what you learned, it was on how well you followed the rules.

I have a young nephew who has an extremely high IQ. When I was talking with his father about Gatto a couple of years ago, we called his son -- 7 at the time -- over to ask him a simple question. I asked him which was more important to his teachers -- getting the right answers or following the rules.

"Following the rules," he said without hesitation.

Remember back to when you were in school. Which kids had the most problems getting along? Aside from the total misfits, it was usually the ones who kept asking "Why do we do it this way?"

In this country, it was all about the industrial revolution. In an 1859 speech, Abraham Lincoln pointed out one of the strengths of America. Nearly 75 percent of working people were their own bosses, either as farmers, small businessmen or artisans. They didn't take orders from anyone. They were independent thinkers.

The industrial revolution changed all that. Companies wanted workers who would follow orders without question, who were essentially interchangeable cogs in a big machine. They didn't want people who would ask questions, unless that question was "How high do you want me to jump, sir?"

Why is so much of education based on rote memorization, on true-false, multiple-choice or fill-in-the-blanks testing? Because it teaches people that there is a right answer to everything, and if you know the right answers, you succeed.

When I was in 12th grade in 1966, I did something I don't think had ever been done at my school. I called a teacher a racist.

It could have been worse, I suppose.

I could have called her a Nazi.

She was German, and this was at the height of the Civil Rights movement. She told an all-white class that the problem with black people was that they didn't want to work and only wanted handouts. I told her that was a racist thing to say.

Of course in the overall scheme of things, I was the one who lost. She spent the rest of the year getting back at me.

Kids just weren't supposed to talk to teachers that way.

So listen to the interview. Read Gatto's book, or at least part of it. The link given earlier is to a PDF version of it online.

I guarantee it will shock you.

It certainly shocked me.

allvoices

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

Crap.

Utter and complete crap.

You listen to one guy, who was probably fired from his teaching job, complain about the "system" and you believe him.

What's worse is that you want your "readers" to believe in this crap just because you do.

I went to public school and I wasn't brainwashed into compliance.

You obey what you're told because otherwise there will be utter chaos.

imagine millions of people simply deciding on their own what's right and what's wrong.

You call yourself a Democrat?

No, you're seriously mistaken and maybe deficient in your thinking.

I sit on the sidelines and read most of this stuff on your blog without commenting.

It's entertainment, right?

I would never get up and interpose myself in a professional wrestling match. I'm there to watch and be entertained.

Well, this isn't entertaining.

It's not even true.

Shame on you for promoting such a neocon position.

They want to do away with mandatory public education. It would save them so much money, and of course, their kids would still go to private school.

Every now and then some "good" kid gets abused by a bad teacher.

It's rare.

Most teachers are good, most students obey because they know it's the proper thing to do, not because they're forced to do so.

We need our current education system to be expanded and every student ought to be compelled to attend public schools.

That way the playing field is leveled and no one gets an advantage, and everyone learns the same basic education.

I'm advocating that not just because I'm a teacher at a public school, but because it's right.

It's child abuse to believe in any other way.

Is that what you're advocating? Child abuse?

This Gatto is dangerous and maybe we should be thinking seriously about rounding up all of the people like him and keeping them away from people. Dangerous ideas, toxic ideas pollute the world as much as our country's economic policies do.

Too much liberty is far more dangerous than too little.

It's been proven. There are studies that show that most people prefer security to exercising liberty.

It's a very dangerous world and what you are assisting is a movement of people more concerned with liberty than with safety and security.

We don't need to torture people or to carry on useless wars. We just need to help every child from the time he or she enters school to start thinking properly.

Then, we'd have no wars.

Think on that for a moment, Herr Rappaport.

Without wars and social inequity, you'd be out of a job.

WE don't need muckrakers stirring up people.

We need social order.

There are scientific studies that help teachers and others determine what occupation is best for a student.

When you allow people to choose careers willy-nilly is when you get unemployment. Most people are just not capable of thinking things out on their own. They need licensed and certified teachers to help them.

If you can read this, then you ought to be thanking a teacher and our public education system instead of lending supports to some of its most deceptive enemies.

never trust a traitor, and that's what Gatto really is, a traitor to the system that gave him a public platform for his toxic bile.

Shame on you.

Anonymous said...

No name?

It's so easy to lash out from the dark.

I haven't yet joined the Google blogging network, but I leave my name every time I blog.

It's a simple courtesy.

It's easy to criticize, but you should always be willing to stand up for what you believe.

It's hard to understand why you're so upset with what Mike has written unless you feel like your job is in jeopardy.

Maybe that's why you didn't leave your name.

Maybe you're not brave enough to stand up for what you believe.

I, for one, am intrigued by what Mike has exposed, and I'll check it out.

It's scary for me to read that someone is so against an idea that he wants the one discussing it rounded up and presumably silenced.

That's not our way. That's not the American way.

You may think of yourself a s a"liberal" but what you're advocating is totalitarianism.

"Step out of line, the man comes and takes you away."

Remember that line?

It's from a Buffalo Springfield song called, "For What It's Worth"

The songwriter was Stephen Stills (of the later group, "Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young" and no one would ever accuse him of being a neocon.

But he saw this idea you have for obeying simply because you're told to do so as totalitarianism.

Can't you see that?

Of the two positions, Mike's and yours, I think that you represent the real threat.

Liberty is far more precious than you believe.

And you're willing to sacrifice it for a little peace and security.

Well that's wrong and that won't work.

It's just another way of saying "appeasement" and that never works.

Maybe as a teacher, you might wish to check a history book and see that.

Blind adherence to rules is what leads to wars.

Next time, show some backbone. leave your name.

Evelyn

Anonymous said...

Evelyn is right.

If you disagree (or agree) leave a name.

I am interested in finding out more.

I'll stay tuned.


Barbara, in Burbank

Mike Rappaport said...

"It's been proven. There are studies that show that most people prefer security to exercising liberty."I'll quote old Ben Franklin on this one. He's the one who said that people who are willing to sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

"Most people are just not capable of thinking things out on their own."You make my point with this statement. Are they really not capable, or do we make them that way?

Schools where following all the rules and doing things the way the teacher insists they be done tend to infantilize people.

I'll write more on this, but do you know what type of kid Gatto says are the ones who can't be ruined by indoctrination?

Kids who know their parents love them unconditionally.

I don't advocate not educating children to the best of their ability, and I'm not against free public education.

It just shouldn't be based on creating perfect little factory workers.